If that’s your bus… a) You should probably move it, and b) so why aren’t you at Burning Man?
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This person lives in this bus and moves it bus all over the hill to avoid the 3 day parking limit. We see other buses on the hill too…..it’s becoming a magnet for buses and campers because of the wonderful views!
um.. Probably not the views but rather the isolation.
If you want to see real urban camping go down 7’th street near UCSF in mission bay. The streets are lined with campers.
It’s still a free world the last time I checked. Why bother them for crying out loud. I feel like there’s now tons of cloned nosey old women types all over Bernal that are afraid of anything that doesn’t fit into their idea of how “things should be”. There’s a ton on the BernalSafe list serve too. It’s so annoying.
Ok, so let’s have them park in front of Kelly’s house day and night, dump their trash and their sewage on your sidewalk and the see if that fits in with your idea of how “things should be”. then we’ll talk.
nosey-old-women- types?? Stereotype?
Agree!!
considering these comments, the stereotype is appropriate.
It really has nothing to do with being a nosey old woman, but not turning our streets into an RV park for big buses. Would you like it parked in front of your house. One of the reasons for living in Bernal is the wonderful open space that is NOT filled with big school buses.
reinforcing the stereotype even further. kthxbye
“The nosey old woman” is an archetype, not a
stereotype. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype
Still, I feel like we all have invaded their privacy in a rude way by having this public discussion about them… without including them. And having read these comments, I feel like I drank someone’s bathwater. yuk.
Todd, Do you ever go out and do interviews in person? I would be stoked to read an update piece about you talking to the folks that are in the bus.
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I think that’s a MOST EXCELLENT idea! Interview the folks in the bus. It’s often possible to learn amazing things about people this way. If people want to have a REAL community it means actually getting out to meet people.
cool idea about a follow up article with an actual interview, and thx for the wiki link!
Your Bernalwood editor has a day job, so interviews are opportunistic. That said, I did reach out to the bus owner via email. No response at this time.
That bus is usually in the same spot, and it’s not the spot it’s currently parked in. I thought for sure it would be at Burning Man this week because it has a sign that says something about drinks being served inside. In short, that bus is far more enigmatic than I had been giving it credit for.
Anybody who’s anybody at Burning Man no longer goes to Burning Man, including co-founder John Law (the guy with the 3 Doggie Diner heads on the trailer. By the way, the doggies are now dressed in knitted head gear and were last seen at 5th and Mission, but will probably be going to Bernal Soon.
As to the bus, WHY are people so nosy? This what I hate about liberals. They always want to tell others how to live their lives. Leave the bus and its owner alone!
Ok, well read my comment to Kelly and then have them park in front of your house.
This is a problem throughout District 9. It is very irritating, especially when there is 3 weeks between the very dismal street cleaning. These people show no consideration to the residents who actually live in Bernal Heights. They blight the neighborhood, cause problems; they’re trash!
Pamela…. people are not discarded Coke cans. Their lives have value.
That yellow bus has been chased around B.H. Boulevard and nearby streets for months. Every time the owner gets a tag he moves it to somewhere else until it’s tagged again. Bus owners beware in Bernal heights.
Wow. I’ve lived in Bernal for 12 years and I’ve seen that bus around NOT dumping sewage on people’s front doors. this comment “Ok, so let’s have them park in front of Kelly’s house day and night, dump their trash and their sewage on your sidewalk and the see if that fits in with your idea of how “things should be”. then we’ll talk.” – Very snarky and rude with additional negative attitude. Really? People are dumping trash and sewage on your sidewalk? Maybe once or twice you’ve experienced something like this, if that. We all have to deal with other people living around us and maybe things just not going the way we would like them to. I suggest relaxing a little bit and maybe trying to be less hostile overall. But I would bet you might have something to say to me to just prove my point. So be my guest, it is a free country after all right?
It is refreshing to see a kernel of humanity in some of these comments for once.
Its hard to wrap my head around my neighbors’ (or the author of this blog?) contempt for people less fortunate than themselves, but that seems consistent with many of the new entitled resident’s world view.
Please, no sanctimony.
Let the record show that I have no grievance with this bus, nor the people who own it, nor do my comments above reflect any such sentiment. I know the owners of the bus do not live in it, and that it is used for recreational purposes. That said, the bus is rather, uh, conspicuous. Also, really, I always assumed the bus was optimized for use at Burning Man, so it is odd to see it idle this week.
WHOOPS! Guess the bus took the hint………ITS MOVED…… ITS GONE (For Now). Relax now People. Everyone happy?
Just want to point something out. The vast majority of the people living in vehicles in SF are either A) mentally ill, B) addicts, or C) both. The sad part of this is that, alongside the homeless population, these people are allowed to live like that because “it’s a free country after all”. Most mentally ill and addicted people refuse treatment, so we should just let them live like that. Is that compassionate? Is that human decency?
Uh, I once spent 9 months on the road touring the country and living in a van. I am neither mentally ill nor a drug addict. In fact, prior to that tour I owned a restaurant, a nightclub, and was a radio talkshow host. I know all kinds of people who have lived in vans and buses. I can’t think of a single one of them who were either drug addicts or mentally ill.
Because you and the people you know represent the vast majority?
At least I have anecdotal evidence, not assumptions. Tell me how you draw the conclusion that “most” people who live in vehicles are mentally ill or drug addicts. Also, what about the RV industry. Do they sell RVs mainly to the mentally ill? What kind of business model is that? Many folks have sold their homes and retired to vehicle living. Ever hear of the “snow birds”? Those are retired folks who live in vehicles and migrate from the north to Florida in the winter. The tourist industry loves to see these folks because they spend money.
Do THESE folks sound like drug addicts or mentally ill?
First, a couple news articles:
http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/alpha-consumer/2011/10/19/the-secret-to-living-well-on-11000-a-year
http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/07/20/3041729/six-years-in-an-rv-end-on-the.html
And some practical guides…
http://cheaprvliving.com/
http://tynan.com/living-in-a-small-rv-introduction
You’re not reading his comment David: he was referring to people living in vehicles in SAN FRANCISCO, not on a road trip around the country. IN SF a lot of them are drug addicts, who refuse treatment or help, which is available. so as Tony says, should be just turn our view and play the “free country” card? or get them help, encourage them to help. San Franciscans, of which I am one; many have taken the ‘whatever” let it be attitude to so many of our social ills,, because it’s so damn cool to just let these homeless be free and enjoy their ‘freedom” at the expense of hard working citizens who own and or rent here. And yes, I have had more than one instance Wool St. Neighbor where a homeless bus has been parked in front of my house for weeks, depositing raw sewage into the street drain and tons of trash on the sidewalk. Not acceptable at all.
David, I wrote “the vast majority of people living in vehicles in SF.”
I am aware that there are many people who live in vehicles, who enjoy the RV lifestyle, who are normal people. That’s not what I was referring to.
Take a walk around the intersection of Bryant & Division, the area south of the ballpark east of 3rd street, the bottom of Potrero hill, or other areas of concentrations of vehicle dwellers in SF and you tell me what’s going on.
I grew up in SF. Ever since the hippie days — that’s 40+ years — I’ve seen people living in vans, buses, etc., and it never caused any problems. This is nothing new at all. The bus in question is a self-contained unit, neat and orderly, not the kind of mess you might see at Division and Harrison.
Matters of parking always generate the greatest amount of comments on this blog. It’s like a Bernal touchstone made of asphalt.
It’s true! Parking is kind of like Bernalwood’s Miley Cyrus. Right?
Exactly!
Yes, parking in Bernal can require a little twerking to shimmy the car into a tight space.
A fun posting! Too bad the dialogue went south. You folks have a great neighborhood, sunshine, and a great view! More people will want to share it but not pay for it. Perhaps a gated entrance with guards? Just teasing! Maybe a new festival? “Burning Bernal” Have a nice day!!
I kind of like that old bus up there on the hill. A bit quirky, like Bernal. I’ve never seen anyone in it or any trash or anything around it. As to people living in parked cars, can we agree that, as with people who don’t live in parked cars, some are difficult/anti-social and others are not?
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